| Author | Subject: Time machine question |
| frankie | Posted At 15:16:33 04/04/2004 If a person[lets say me] had a piece of the original machine... be it the console or the chair...or some other..and built a full size around that piece..could it be called 'Original"? as the machine we do call original[bob burns] does not have all the original parts. this is just a question...so please ady ,bruce and gary dont turn this into a movie review like you did to dons 20 questions. |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 15:44:43 04/04/2004 Hi Frankie If you, or anyone else had an original part. Then that part would be original! But you couldn't claim the rest of the TM built around that part, to be original. If the majority of the original wasn't intact. I would see it the same way as you!;-) |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 15:53:41 04/04/2004 then would say bobs machine is not the original? |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 16:03:29 04/04/2004 Well, the majority of it is!;-) So that's the way i look at it. I wish the original chair wasn't sold on, and console etc were'nt removed! But there's nothing that can be done about that now!!!;-((( |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 16:07:11 04/04/2004 so you base "Original" on the majority of the original parts im not sure but i believe bobs machine contains 50 to 60% original remember a lot of parts were beyond repair. but fair enough he does have more original parts than anyone else would have. |
| Don |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 16:31:00 04/04/2004 I'd say Bob has more like 80-85%. The console and Chair are the only major parts missing. The dish, base, rails, engine housing and dish support are all the original parts. In the case of US currency, if you have a minimun of 51% of a damaged bill then the Treasury Dept. will exchange it for a new bill. So using that as a guide, you would need at least 51% of the machine to call it original. Bob wins. |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 16:34:42 04/04/2004 I've already said that the majority of it is. And thats how i look at it! |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 17:29:31 04/04/2004 but don werent the pods replaced.. as well as the missing rails..if so i dont think 80% would be accurate. and as far as bob wins...this is just a question not a competetion.but depending if you you feel that the missing and broken parts only account for 20% of the machine.ie..chair ...console ...my favorite the lever..pods and some of the rails i would have to differ thinking that these parts were only 4% each of the total. |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 18:05:19 04/04/2004 One of the pods was intact. And they used it as a template to form/reproduce them. That doesn't make them original. but it's as close as you can get! |
| Gary |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 19:17:03 04/04/2004 Ok frankie, no movie "review" here. Just one question to you. Would you consider Bob's machine "Exact"? :-) |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 19:26:59 04/04/2004 im not so sure about that ady ..maybe don can tell me more i thought both pods were replaced. but listen to you again "That doesn't make them original. but it's as close as you can get!" do you work for john kerry? there you go again...flip -flop |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 19:46:12 04/04/2004 Yeah, that's why i said "them", short pant!!!;-))) |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 19:52:04 04/04/2004 well said ady! so you agree bobs machine is 80% |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 20:01:15 04/04/2004 I'm not sure what percentage is left! Would you like it chopped in to equal amounts to work it out? Go on...bore someone else for a change!!! |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 20:15:33 04/04/2004 Gary there's no point in asking Frankie about exactness!!!;-))) Ha Ha Ha |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 20:16:56 04/04/2004 PAT, PAT, PAT!!! |
| Gary |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 20:30:02 04/04/2004 Well, since frankie ignored my question--Well said ady!! |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 06:58:00 04/05/2004 woah boys here i am would i call the machine exact...i would.... but up untill recently... there are some new discoveries about the console that were recently found out.you boys are good at research so perhaps you can tell me..if not... i think don has more info on this subject. as ady would say..."That doesn't make them original. but it's as close as you can get!" kinda like my lever ....but dont worry my console is exact..if don posts the new pics with the....hey why should i tell you guys..find out for yourself! |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 07:19:00 04/05/2004 darn ady and eric and gary... im sorry there i go again...i didnt mean to spill about the console ...i guess you will have to put up with my boasting again! ps have you guys got anything related to the time machine besides this web site? ps having each other doesnt count!! |
| Don |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 10:52:55 04/05/2004 Frankie, I haven't a clue what your talking about. |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 11:00:13 04/05/2004 The lamp cage that was somewhat melted and the position of the date display. |
| Gary |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 22:07:06 04/05/2004 frankie, you left out Bruce in the "i'm sorry there I go again" speel.:-) |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 06:27:54 04/06/2004 bruce is too busy getting writing lessons ready for ady. |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 12:08:51 04/06/2004 I'm Flattered, that you can't leave me alone!!!;-))) Sorry Frankie. I'm too busy at the moment, (Building a new part for Rome)to decipher your riddles !!!;-))) |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 20:09:37 04/07/2004 ady i cant wait to see you model;;;judging from you past posts you have talked a lot with people in the know; i cant wait to see what two years of hard work will bring you! after all........."I'm not a model maker, and i know nothing about modelling" i just cant waite! |
| Gary |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 22:28:27 04/07/2004 When did this discussion turn into a competition of model builders? |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 03:03:51 04/08/2004 Well said Gary. PATtttttttttt!!!;-))) |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 06:44:48 04/08/2004 Who said competition? I just said id like to see his model..\ and i referenced a quote... gary can you not comprehend? or has the english language passed you bye.... |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 06:45:08 04/08/2004 well said! |
| Gary |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 21:07:39 04/08/2004 frankie, you did not answer an earlier question of mine--Is Bob's machine "exact"??, or is this too hard of a question. |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 06:33:43 04/09/2004 gary sorry about the sight loss.... if you scroll up 12 postS you will see this... i will copy my quote for ok? "woah boys here i am would i call the machine exact...i would.... but up untill recently... there are some new discoveries about the console that were recently found out.you boys are good at research so perhaps you can tell me" anything else G boy? |
| Gary |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 10:55:35 04/09/2004 Well Frank, usually when some uses the word "but" as in "but up until recently" I would say that they were hedging on their answer. A little "wishy-washy"? |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 11:16:07 04/09/2004 well gary lets put it this way is my lever exact i would say yes..others would differ..if not for the dvd and the way still photos are done the wrinkles in the marble may not have never been seen.again [exact at which point in time] the console in bobs machine is as exact as it could have been when it was built.now with the dvd you can see some very distuingishing traits of the console that were not known when the part was built.so again how do you define exact? let me give you a hint, in one shot you can see some melting of a lamp cage...so would a consle have to have this ......or would exact be as it was built? |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 16:26:49 04/09/2004 Hi Frankie Yes. I think this matter was (clearly) dealt with in a previous post/string of yours (Time Machine)By Francois Beaulieu! I personally think. If the parts can be made of the actual materials, "THE PROP" suggests them to be? Then that would be the greatest achievement....Well, As long as the parts look the same!!!;-))) Yeah, the console, Harvey Mayo, made for the restoration (at the time)was brilliant!!! I'm a great fan of his work!!!;-))) |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 16:35:27 04/09/2004 ill bet if he [mayo] made a console today... it would better and more EXACT than the one on bobs machine! hence the dvd and the ability to freeze frame! does that take care of the "wishy-washy"? |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 16:36:26 04/09/2004 the last line is for g. boy! |
| Gary |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 17:06:13 04/09/2004 Thanks F. guy. :-) |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 18:15:00 04/09/2004 Gary, You may have noticed???;-))) But frankie get's very touchy about certain things!!!;-))) WHY??? Harvey Mayo, is someone, i would CLASS as a TRUE expert!!! His work is superlative!!! And nobody is questioning what he can do!!! |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 19:40:23 04/09/2004 why do you think know so much about this mayo guy? have you seen his work? other than pictures? have you talked with him? or are you just dreaming again and trying to relate? |
| Bruce Holroyd |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 23:47:23 04/09/2004 Frank.... you have inbred tendencies to always take opposing views to just about everything that is said here... watch the video, "The Journey Back"... a few of your queries will be resolved. No movie review... I do not know enough about the original machine to fill in details as to how much is original and how much is not, so I go by what the more knowledgeable people have had access to... facts! Don, Harvey Mayo, Chris Perrotta... and Bob Burns! I would say that Bob Burn's machine is about as original as you can get; it was the prop used in the film, no matter what has been done to refurbish it. The mere fact that it still exists is a testament to its originality! Every other incarnation has been based on its design. As Don points out: the dish, the base, the rails, the time generator/motor unit from the 1960 version is still present, making it acceptable enough to be called "original!" Bob wins! |
| Gary |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 23:48:29 04/09/2004 frankie, What's your Problem??? All ady did was mention Harvey Mayo's name and you attack him. You know, this Constant Attacking Is becoming very BORING!! |
| frankie |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 06:54:02 04/10/2004 no g.boy ady seems to mention people that he has not talked with or met.as if he knows them on a personal basis. i know none of these people have built anything for him because he wouldnt spend the money.if you read his posts he has mentioned at least six different people. thats all... not attacking. And Bruce what opposing view? I simply posted a question? I am only looking for yours as well as others point of view on the originality of bobs machine.And if you are going to speak about... inbred tendencies...well maybe you are from west virginia! |
| ady |
Re: Time machine question (Currently
0 replies) Posted At 07:49:39 04/10/2004 Well pardon me for appreciating great work!!! I didn't realise one had to see Harvey's work LIVE, or personally talked with him first, before one is allowed to voice an opinion about his work??? I look very hard at pictures. They say everything! I'm a great fan of Harvey's work, and there's nothing you can do about it SHORT PANTS!!!;-))) |